GEIST: “Eddie Glaude, hop in here.”
GLAUDE: “So Jason, let me ask you this question. What do you — I mean, we talk about the Cuban vote in Miami-Dade. What do you make of African-American voters in this county? I mean, when I look at those numbers and I see that decline, it’s important to kind of talk about Cuban-Americans, but it’s also important for us to see how did African-Americans turn out, especially when we compare Miami-Dade to what we saw in Broward. So talk a little bit about what you see on the ground there, if you see anything.”
JOHNSON: “Well, one, and I think this is a good point because also you can still talk about people who identify as black and still talk about Cubans because there are Afro-Cubans, right. Who make it very clear that white Cubans —“
GLAUDE JR.: “Exactly.”
JOHNSON: “— subject them to racism no different than sort of white people. So I think that’s part of what we have to understand. There was never going to be, and I certainly, Eddie, you know, no one could find tape of me suggesting that Joe Biden was going to do as well with black voters as Barack Obama did in ‘08 and 2012. He held his ground but he was always going to have difficulty because the enthusiasm level for many African-Americans had been suppressed by years and years and years of disinformation from the Biden campaign through Facebook. We saw that they had had these plans back in 2016 and also the ability to demonize Senator Kamala Harris as his VP. So all of those things were going to be challenges. But I think it’s very important when we look at the lower number for Latinos, you know, Biden underperforming with Latinos, Biden underperforming with African-Americans I think we also have to remember to put the focus the right place though. This is about white folks. This is about white people who saw a president who was corrupt and sexist and violent and mismanaged an entire pandemic that’s killed over 230,000 people by the election and they said I want some more of that. So even if every single black person and every single Latino person had come out and said, hey we are going to support Joe Biden, it wouldn’t have been enough to overcome the number of white people who’re OK with Trump and his mini version of Trumpism which is DeSantis who is also responsible for some of the voter suppression in the state, which kept black and Latino voters from getting to the polls.”

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